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Phish Save the Date! Halloween Teaser Map

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Yesterday Phish confirmed what had been circulating on the rumor train for weeks — that they'll be hosting a 3-day Halloween Festival from October 30th to November 1st, 2009.

See above for the custom announcement from Phish.com. The map is being updated every few days with a new animated clue, slowly revealing the festival location and potentially the name:

“Save the Date”

Empire Polo Club in Indio, CA

Speaking of which, all signs are pointing to the Phish Halloween Festival being held at the stunning Empire Polo Field in Indio, California, home of the annual Coachella festival and fertile spot for growing dates.

The Coachella / Empire Polo Field rumor is strong enough that nearby hotel rooms and rentals are pretty much sold out. And apparently there's already huge demand for Naked Wizard costumes.

Read on more analysis and speculation about the Phish Festival 2009.


Update: June 28, 2009 @ 11:00 pm

Nothing confirmed of course, but word on the street is the band will be playing eight (yes, 8) sets over the 3-day festival. Two sets Friday, three sets Saturday, and three sets again on Sunday including an early one. Take it with a grain of salt as I'm only about 50/50 with the rumors on Jamtopia.

And while I'm speculating, the latest I've heard or read from the few remaining sources that have any credibility, Fall Tour 2009 is going to be a whopper. Supposedly Phish will play a 26 show Fall Tour ending in North Carolina in November. And that'll be followed up by a (rumored-to-death) 4-night stand in Miami for New Years.

Maybe it's just me, but that sounds like a heck of a lot of shows and if it pans out this way I can only hope it doesn't “drag on beyond the point of vibrancy and health.” Oh wait, I can also hope they stop by the UIC Pavilion for at least a few nights!

Provided the rest of this info is correct, you can look for an announcement on or around July 4th.


Update: June 29, 2009 @ 12:20 am

Just got a comment from Johnny Goff (aka @PhishNQuips) saying that Phish will appear on Conan / The Tonight Show on October 28th. Take it for what it's worth.

::wonders if he can program Tivo that far in advance::


Update: June 29, 2009 @ 1:00 am

Not sure how this didn't come to my attention earlier, but a day-and-half-old thread on PT has plenty of spoilers for what's going to happen on the map based on the findings of mr_wonderful.


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From the looks of it we'll be seeing a merman swimming from somewhere near North Carolina to Colorado, and an alien zapping Tennessee, Pennsylvania and Nevada before going “home” to New Mexico. Here's a composite image from another intrepid PT'er showing how it all comes together.

Notably, the band has removed these elements from the live Flash file, so there's always the chance they'll change things up just to keep it interesting.

Still not sure how I feel about having seen this in advance, but I know for sure I've got tons of respect for the creative concept and love that the band is back to their old playful ways.


Update: June 29, 2009 @ 3:00 am

Okay, I wish I could take credit for this but alas it was pointed out by someone else. Take a gander at this snippet from the “Economy” section of the Indio, CA Wikipedia page:

Indio has been one of Southern California's most important agricultural regions, once responsible for a large percentage of the nation's date crop; however, with all the new residential and recreational development, the date groves are now more limited to south and southeast of Indio. Even the grove of date palms at the Riverside County Date Festival fairgrounds has been torn out by the county.[citation needed]

There are citrus groves and vegetable fields surrounding the city limits, but rapid development of new housing tracts and golf courses in the “East Valley” in the 1990s and 2000s has displaced most of the agricultural space.

Turns out “Save the Date” might not just be a directive, but also the actual name of the Phish Halloween Festival, a brilliant pun, and a potential cause marketing angle for the Fest. If this is the case, somewhere out there a marketing genius lives among us. Well-played whoever you are.


Update: June 29, 2009 @ 5:30 pm

Not sure when, but some time today the map fell victim to an infestation of red fire ants who devoured North Carolina, Wisconsin, and Washington.

red fire ant

Once again the super-sleuths at PT are doing a great job of reverse engineering this concept. Turns out about 10 years ago a turf farm in Indio, CA was invaded by South American fire ants prompting eradication measures by the state Food and Agriculture Department.

If the fire ants are not eradicated, state officials could eventually order a quarantine to isolate the insects, which devour fruit, flowers and tree bark, officials said.

Apparently the problem has only gotten worse since then. A long-term eradication program that started in 2000 was suspended in 2004 due to lack of funding and as recently as 2008 the fire ant infestation was reportedly spreading eastward.

The map version of California remains (not surprisingly) unharmed by the animated ants, but the overall creative concept continues to prove itself to be extremely well thought out.


Update: June 30, 2009 @ 5:30 pm

Holy crap. I think I just figured out the clue to the first animation in the Halloween Festival map — the one where Oklahoma, Idaho, West Virginia and New Hampshire seemed to simply deflate.

My theory: the animation represents a groundwater plume. More specifically, a plume with an overly-high nitrate concentration.

The nitrate plume is a potential threat to deeper underlying groundwater via improperly constructed, sealed, or abandoned wells.

I'll give you one guess where you can find these poisoned plumes… that right, the Indio Subbasin of the Coachella Valley Groundwater Basin. At least according this report from the California Department of Water Resources which I've quoted above.

dates growing on a vine

Presumably, if left unchecked, these nitrate plumes will ruin the water that's used to irrigate the date crop, not to mention the drinking water.

So at this point I'm going on record: I'll buy you a Nintendo if the Phish Festival 2009 isn't in Indio, CA. Save the friggin' date, and book your flight already!


Update: June 30, 2009 @ 9:00 pm

Today the map was updated again, and this time Kansas and Ohio were unceremoniously yanked from contention by a clipper-type boat.

dates growing on a vine

And again the folks on PT are all over it, quickly surmising that this is a reference to “The Lost Ship of the Desert” — the subject of legends about ancient ships buried in, you know it, California's Colorado Desert.

The [Los Angeles] Examiner also published a story [in 1919] of a Spanish galleon half-buried in the sands near Indio, its hold bursting with a cargo of precious stones.

So like the forthcoming UFO, this one isn't quite a direct reference to Saving Dates, but it still has Indio written all over it.


Update: July 2, 2009 @ 4:00 pm

Well for whatever reason the map isn't doing anything for me, but word on the street is that an alien Vannah White cyclops has come in and taken out Oregon, Wyoming, Illinois, and Pennsylvania Wheel of Fortune style.

dates growing on a vine

Right now the Indio connection is a little questionable, but one PT thread links to this article about date festivals that does mention the letter-turning temptress:

…and above the counter, there are still pictures of the Shields themselves outfitted in safari gear and helmets, as well as hand-colored black-and-white photos of pinup girls holding bushels of dates and caressing date palms with the aplomb of Vanna White.

Pretty tenuous for sure, and given the previous animations I'm guessing there's a more compelling reason for this one hidden out there somewhere.


Update: July 3, 2009 @ 3:00 am

I think I figured out the Vanna White animation, and it's got nothing to do with Vanna White. The important part is that she's a Cyclops!

Let me preface by saying this is WAY over my head and I'm not sure I totally understand it well enough to explain, but I'll take a stab.

Apparently cyclops is not just a one-eyed bastard living in a cave but also a newly identified part of the “common symbiosis signaling (Sym) pathway” in plants. And best I can gather from this report, certain mutations in the cyclops portion of the Sym pathway can help plants work harder to extract nutrients from soil.

Because of these benefits, scientists are working to better understand and clone the more successful cyclops mutations.

A number of plants have entered beneficial interactions with microorganisms that facilitate the uptake of nitrogen and phosphorus from the soil. [The authors] provide new insights into a novel genetic component in the plant that allows the establishment of these nutrient-capturing symbioses… Our challenge now is to take this genetics into a coherent understanding of the mechanisms of symbiosis signaling.
How CYCLOPS keeps an eye on plant symbiosis by Ward Capoen and Giles Oldroyd

If the scientists can pull this off, not only will the crops be more healthy, but farmers won't need to use as much fertilizer which is expensive and emits a ton of greenhouse-gasses.

date palm leaf infected with bayoud disease

This same type of genetic control may also have something to do with preventing bayoud disease in date palms, but I'm not exactly sure how it all ties together.

Either way, if the above is anything even close to the correct explanation, this is yet again another brilliant clue tied right back to the Save the Date theme.

In other news, I've had a few people email asking if I knew what the background music to the map is. Turns out it's part of the 30+ minute Wolfman's from 10/31/98. This monster includes multiple jam segments, tons of teases, Fishman on vacuum, and more.

And to wrap up tonight's update, it seems we've got our first parody of the map. Not even gonna comment on this one.


Update: July 3, 2009 @ 10:30 am

Some alternate Fall tour date rumors have started making the rounds on a variety of message boards, one of which comes complete with photographic “evidence.”

Phish leaked fall tour dates

This rumored 20-stop tour schedule has the band playing the Hollywood Bowl, Warfield (the night after Save the Date), Austin Music Hall, Hampton Coliseum, three nights at the Spectrum, and two nights at MSG among others. Not to mention the Tonight Show and of course the Save the Date festival.

If these dates pan-out I'll feel a little bad that the info I posted above was wrong, but I'll sure feel great about going back to Rosemont Horizon.


Update: July 6, 2009 @ 8:00 pm

Another update, another three states out of the running.

Thor wind god

This time it's bad news for Tennessee, Virginia, and Kentucky, all of which were blown off the map by the winds of Thor (or some other wind-related god).

And of course as luck would have it, about 3 seconds of Googling brings a curious factoid… date palms in nature can be pollinated by wind.

Not really sure what exactly this has to do with saving dates though, as it's apparently been common practice to hand-pollinate date palms for centuries “to avoid wasting a lot of space and energy growing sufficient male plants” — at least according to Wikipedia.

Will keep you posted if I learn anything else. In the mean time, here are some interesting facts about date palms.


Update: July 6, 2009 @ 11:00 pm

A few theories about the wind have made the rounds on PT — one that it's a reference to the Santa Ana winds and another that it's a reference to the San Gorgonio Pass wind farm. I was even working up a theory involving wind propogation of Date mites that can ruin a crop in no time.

But a comment left below by someone named Neil stopped me dead in my tracks.

Creation of Adam

Neil points out that the god in the animation isn't Thor at all, but the biblical God as depicted in Michelangelo's “The Creation of Adam” on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel.

The famous fresco illustrates the Book of Genesis story when God formed Adam out of “the dust of the ground” and then “breathed into his nostrils the breath of life”, causing him to “become a living soul” (Gen. 2:7, KJV, emphasis mine).

As Neil further reminds us, after God created Adam he brought forth trees from the ground (Gen. 2:9), one of which was the Tree of Life.

And guess what type of tree many cultures and biblical scholars believe to be the Tree of Life?

You guessed it, the date palm. Imagine that.


Update: July 7, 2009 @ 8:00 pm

Looks like Mike just rolled in on his Segway and mowed down another trio of states — North Dakota, South Dakota, and Nebraska. Don't foresee an obvious Indio connection, but you know I'll post an update if I find one.

And I'll also post an update if I can find a patent for a Segway lawn mower. Phenomenal idea.


Update: July 9, 2009 @ 8:30 am

Two things to update this morning.

First, in the spirit of Occam's razor I think I may have overthought the clue to the first animation having stumbled upon a simpler solution on Wikipedia's Choachella Valley page.

Geysers.

Seismic activity is what triggers earthquakes, a common natural but on occasion, destructive phenomena in the Coachella Valley, and fault lines causes hot water springs or geysers to rise from the ground.

Funny because I had originally been looking for geysers when I found the nitrogen plumes.

Mike Gordon Segway Lawn Mower

In other news, been thinking a bit more about the Mike Segway animation and may have stumbled across something there too.

Something beyond the fact that the Coachella Valley is riddled with golf courses, not to mention the Empire Polo Fields themselves, and that the whole area needs tons of lawn mowing.

Monster Garage Mustang Lawn Mower

It's possible the Segway lawn mower may be a subtle nod to Palm Desert-based sod supplier West Coast Turf.

The company, headquartered a mere nine miles outside of Indio, helped Jesse James's Monster Garage create “Switchblade.” It's the Mustang convertible lawn mower seen at right.

Now that may be a bit of a stretch, but I can think of at least one place where any type of lawn mower, be it Mustang, Seqway, or plain-old John Deere would be completely useless — Datelan Army Airfield.


Update: July 10, 2009 @ 6:30 am

Alaska blowing up

Alaska, we hardly knew ye. So sorry to see you go.

Details to follow, I've got “real” work to do.


Update: July 11, 2009 @ 10:30 am

Try as I might, I'm just not making any sort of connection between Alaska and Indio. But there's still plenty of potential symbolism to ruminate on.

For starters you've got the obvious — Alaska, the song (and background track for the animation) failed to make the cut for the new Phish album Joy.

Flaming Bomb Alaska

Then you've got the delicious desert item bombe Alaska (see at right) — a decadent variation of baked Alaska that adds a dark rum flambé to the already delicious combo of ice cream, sponge cake, and meringue.

And given the detonation's proximity to lovely Wasila, Alaksa, one can't help but think this might be some sort of social commentary on a political career up in smoke.

Meanwhile, if you have read the comment thread below you're missing out on some great entertainment value, not to mention a simmering East Coast / West Coast feud.


Update: July 13, 2009 @ 10:30 am

WOW!

California Hot Air Balloon

California (along with the bulk of my credibility if this pans out) was just airlifted off the map by a fleet of hot air balloons!

For the moment, I'm stumped. Totally appreciate that much of the speculation above was far-reaching, but at least a few of those animations point straight to Indio. Not to mention the incredible array of “in the know” folks saying Indio was a lock.

If this proves nothing else it's that Phish likes to keep you guessing, and that's about all I have left to do. Keep guessing.

Oh, and keep your eyes peeled for a free Nintendo Wii giveaway when the final location is announced — assuming they don't have one more twist up their sleeve. Part of me thinks California may have just been airlifted away for safe-keeping :)


Update: July 13, 2009 @ 5:30 pm

Well needless to say this latest animation has lit-up the Phish message boards like a Christmas tree, but really only a few things worth noting (not including the picture at right which is just for fun).

Hot Air Balloon Indio CA

First, as ZZYZX was (I believe) the first to identify on PT, California is not really gone if you zoom out on the map. Now this could just be lazy programming, moving an object off the stage instead of actually killing it off. But either way it's led to plenty of additional speculation that Cali's just hovering up there safely, waiting for a triumphant return once the rest of the states are eliminated.

Second, the latest animation has resulted in at least one public wager for a 3 day festival pass.

Finally, and perhaps most curiously, is this recent tweet from Kevin Shapiro that reminds us to “never trust a prankster.”

Can't imagine what he means by that.


Update: July 14, 2009 @ 8:30 am

Sorry for the late update. I've been having trouble with my AT&T DSL at home so couldn't see the animation last night. I did however call them and after explaining that I wasn't able to do my “very important work” they gave me a $100 credit!

Fishman Pinball Machine

Turns out last night the entire map turned into a pinball machine and the ball took out Connecticut, Georgia, Iowa, Montana, Michigan, and Utah before dropping into Lake Michigan.

Plus a little bonus at the end showed the ball to be super-imposed with Fishman in a Viking hat a la Fall Tour 98.

In the spirit of completeness, I set out to find an Indio connection to see what would turn up. Answer, not too much.

I did however find this cool vintage Palm Springs pinball machine made by (Vegas-based) Bally back in 1953. Learned that IPD is not just an acronym for Indio Police Department but also Internet Pinball Database. And found a Plinko like contraption called Fantasy 5 Dream Machine that was part of the California lottery's TV show The Big Spin. Don't miss the previous segment from that episode to watch a lady win $3 million bucks.

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, as most people have noticed California is no longer “floating” above the map in the latest Teaser.swf file. No big surprise. It was just conveniently stashed off-stage at the end of the hot air balloon animation.

Hot Air Balloon Pumpkin Mask

Not content with just viewing the .swf, some folks on PT have continued to decompile the Teaser, an effort that's been light on clues since the UFO / merman incident. But this latest decompiled swf revealed the asset seen at right, a large image sprite with a mundane name, Shape6.jpg.

The asset hasn't generated as much speculation as one might think, despite the fact that it bears mild resemblance to a pumpkin, is the same design as the balloons that carried away California, and is significantly larger than the other balloon .

Not that this couldn't just be a left-over masking asset from the previous animation, but you know I can't help but speculate :)

One more quick note — today is the last day to enter Jamtopia's Mike Gordon bobblehead giveaway. Could be your only chance to score this great piece of Phish memorabilia.


Update: July 17, 2009 @ 5:00 pm

Darts

In the biggest state-take-down yet, the latest animation finds nine states — Massachusetts, New Jersey, Maryland, Indiana, Missouri, South Carolina, Alabama, Louisiana, and New Mexico — getting targeted and subsequently taken out by darts.

It only took me about 20 minutes of research to tie this back to date palms, and like the Cyclops above it has something to do with plant genetics and breeding.

Specifically, I think it's a reference to something called Diversity Arrays Technology, or DArT.

Diversity Arrays Technology Logo

[DArT] will make comprehensive genome profiles an affordable and powerful tool to accelerate plant breeding.
cropscience.org.au

In short, DArT is a relatively cheap and easy way to analyze plant genomes. Armed with this knowledge, scientists should be able cultivate plants that are more disease resistant, better adapted to local environments, and more generally allow for healthier crops and higher yields.

Haven't been able to find specific references to DArT being used on date palms, but presumably this application would be a positive step towards reducing or even preventing (the previously mentioned) Bayoud Disease.

Now I realize that California is gone from the map, so say what you will about this analysis, but either way I'm still having fun sleuthing and plan to keep at it until the very end.

And speaking of gone from the map… Michigan seems to have re-appeared (for now), though presumably only because the developer failed to include it in the _deadStates array.


Update: July 18, 2009 @ 2:30 pm

With respect to saving dates, there's an interesting comment below from Austin resident BathtubGin09 who points to a 2008 Texas Department of Agriculture alert entitled Date Palm Lethal Decline. Per the article:

Recently the Texas Department of Agriculture adopted an Emergency Quarantine in Cameron, Hidalgo, Nueces and Willacy counties of Texas against Date Palm Lethal Decline disease caused by a phytoplasma.

And apparently most of the date palm trees infected with the so-called Texas Phoenix Palm Decline are coming in from Florida. Looks like Indio isn't the only place that could use some DArT :)


Update: July 18, 2009 @ 8:30 pm

Darts

A dump truck just came in by boat, picked up Missouri, Arkansas, and Colorado, then redeposited Washington back on the map.

And with that, this whole chicanery just got a whole lot more interesting (or less, depending I guess on who you ask) given that the map now has the proven ability to return what it hath once taken away. Can't wait to see how this wraps up…


Update: July 21, 2009 @ 8:30 am

No map updates, but a late-night Tweet from someone (presumably) at The Chopping Block is worth noting:

Phish promo almost done. Starting to suck the life out of me when I leave work at 2am. But fuck it's a cool spot we did for them.
@nathancali via Twitter

I guess it's obvious that the map is“almost done,” but this really helps me appreciate all the work that's gone into it. And I gotta agree that it's a cool spot.


Update: July 22, 2009 @ 10:30 pm

And then there was one.

Darts

Tonight Phish brought back the Golden State after purging the remaining contenders with a standard-issue power drill.

I was a little surprised the hot air balloons didn't return, but the drill still entertained. The animation played-out with applause and cat calls, ultimately drilling through (recently revived) Washington which leaked South into California.

Meanwhile I wonder if the drill was a late addition in response to the recently passed California budget which could allow for offshore drilling as “a new source of desperately needed cash.”

Maybe we'll never know, but you gotta figure there's one more animation to come — the one that reveals the Halloween Festival location, ticket info and other details.

And if we're lucky, Fall Tour dates!


Update: July 22, 2009 @ 10:30 pm

INDIO!

California with golf flag in Indio

Tonight the Phish Halloween map came to an end, falling apart as California came front-and-center accompanied by 2001.

A golf flag and number 8 appeared, the latter of which promptly exited stage left leaving the flag waving in the breeze.

At this point the map was replaced by the official festival site, finally divulging the details we've all been waiting for.

A expected, the venue is none other than the Empire Polo Club in Indio but there was a small curveball with the name — it'll be called Festival 8, not Save the Date as I had presumed.

Now that the map is done, head on over to our follow-up post to learn all about Phish Festival 8 in Indio, CA.


Update: September 28, 2009

Today Phish launched a Festival 8 cover album teaser where they'll be slowly revealing the album for the musical costume. Learn more about the musical costume album teaser and see which albums have been eliminated right here on Jamtopia.


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Zephyr is the greek god of westerly wind…but also Zephyrus’ Roman equivalent was Favonius, who held dominion over plants and flowers.  thus the “date”...

Only problem I have with Indio is the Coachella campground rules.  No cars in campground, no alcohol, no cooking equipment of any kind.  No
Rvs.  Don’t see how that could really work unless they decided to make special rules for Phish which I can’t imagine they would do.
http://www.coachella.com/visitors/onsite-camping

I agree with Dave.  You can google any city in this country and make some sort of connection to each of these clues.  That being said, Go Indio!!!!

Word through the grapevine from some Burlington locals is that this may be going on in VT

The national save the date festival held 240,000 people but 300.000 were expected.  Maybe this means everyone who waqnts to go can get a face value ticket unlike the Hampton were people had to empty their savings for a ticket.

All these theories are a major stretch.  The next animation could be a tornado and someone would bring up how there has never been a tornado in where? thats right Indio!  The cyclops, springs, old school ship, and now a god blowing wind, Zephyr is the god of the west wind by the way, seem like references to the greek gods to me. I could say that Zephyr is a town in texas, or that Athens Georgia is named afte Athena.  Or that Argo is the name of a famous ship that looked just like the one on the site that was used in mythological times.  Argo is also in texas.  and fire ants are all over the south of the country so that means nothing.  There also are plenty of references to fire ants in mythology.  Or maybe they are not clues at all who knows.

“It starts out with the drive. Coming from Downtown Los Angeles, it took about three hours before we arrived at Palm Desert, our home for the next four nights. Passing all the big box department stores, fast food restaurants and gas stations of Los Angeles county, you are transported into a world of sandy deserts, snow covered mountains, billboards with messages from God and wind farms by the dozen. “

http://www.fasterlouder.com.au/reviews/events/13146/Coachella-Valley-Music—Arts-Festival—Empire-Polo-Fields-Indio-California-254—27408.htm

As someone who grew up just miles from Indio and the date farms this is just too obvious folks. The Georgia theory is laughable at best. And I’ll be laughing even harder when Georgia gets blown off the map. Save The Date? Come on people. There is no other place within the US that grows as many dates as there are within the Coachella Valley. So keep making your reservations for Indio, Palm Springs, or Palm Desert hotels (i would suggest a rental car as well) and get ready to spend three days of Fall in the lovely SoCal sunshine listening to Phish. Finally... a West Coast festival. *very happy* :)

the only compelling piece of evidence that it’s in Indio is the title “Save the date.” the rest of this “evidence” could charitably be described as a stretch.

but what I wanna know is when are tix most likely to be made available for sale… and how much are these tix going to go for… and just how many people does the Polo fields hold?

The Santa Ana winds blow into Southern CA late fall/early winter… I’m thinkin Indio!

So, if you notice the winds of Thor are blowing across the Great Plains of our great country just as they did in the early 1930’s when our farms turned to dust and blew away to the east to cloud the skies of the east…  The folks who would have starved to death, if they stayed where they were, moved… Do you know where most of them went??  California.. Particularly So. California.. could this be the latest symbolism of this great genius metaphor??

I think the new clue, god blowing away a few states, does in fact relate to dates.  Its god as depicted in The Creation of Adam by Michaelangelo.  A little googling finds that it is believed that the first Date tree sprung from the ground leftover from the creation of Adam.

I was trying to crack the recent code and saw that Indio ca. is known for having wind farms. Just google Indio ca and wind farms for more info

It is extremely windy out there.  There are Giant Windmills on the way out to Indio, right near Palm Springs.  They are kind of a symbol for Palm Springs, everyone who drives there know’s them.  When I think of heading to Coachella I definitely think of passing the windmills.  It means we are getting close, very close.

To me this is the most obvious hint by far.

What’s with the no 4th of July weekend updates… or anything thus far today for that matter. Everyone gets me all excited… and now I’m just sitting here reloading the Phish.com page and Jamtopia.com every 10 minutes hoping for some news. Otherwise, I’ll be canceling my hotel room in Palm Springs.

In regards to the “evidence” if all of it isn’t true then some of it is most likely false. Trey is touring in October and his last date is 10/25 in Norfolk, VA. I don’t think he would do 9 shows with TAB then the day after the last show fly to Arizona to play with Phish without spending some pre-tour time with the band.

echo project in fairburn was in early october….and it got COLD

not gonna happen there. 

west coast gettin some love.

I have my fingers crossed for Georgia…

Vanna White was a runner up in a Georgia Miss Universe pageant. She also lives/lived there for a while. Also, SaVANNAh Georgia.

A lot of Cyclops gene research is administered at Georgia schools.

Georgia has a MAJOR fire ant problem and is probably more notable for Georgia than it is in Indio or So Cal.

Can’t find a date connection, but it is a hard thing to google because of “date” obviously.

The clues for Georgia and Indio are extremely vague and still kind of a stretch. I wouldn’t go buying plane tickets until you know the state for sure. This is Phish we are talking about. They love mixing it up and they are always full of surprises. They would love to have all the clues point to Indio, just to show you that the clues also point to the true location of the festival.

Here’s a nice little realistic tidbit for y’all… I have a friend of a friend who currently is currently working Warped Tour. He works Coachella & Stagecoach festivals each year. He’s been asked if he’s available to work a three day festival at the Empire Fair Grounds in October (no specific dates were given). His boss said it’s Phish. Now, this guy is only into punk rock & Johnny Cash. He actually dislikes Phish and would have no clue about the rumors currently swirling around in our world.

CA (10/28) >>> GA (10/30-11/1) >>> CO (11/4) >>> TX (11/5) >>> TN (11/6,7)  makes no logistical sense at all.

Where’d you hear fairburn?

These are the dates I keep hearing.  I really hope its in GA rather than Indio.

10/28/09 The Tonight Show, Universal Studios, Universal City, CA
10/30/09 Save the Date, Bouckaert Farm, Fairburn, GA
10/31/09 Save the Date, Bouckaert Farm, Fairburn, GA
11/1/09 Save the Date, Bouckaert Farm, Fairburn, GA
11/4/09 Pepsi Center, Denver, CO
11/5/09 Austin Music Hall, Austin, TX
11/6/09 Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN
11/7/09 Ryman Auditorium, Nashville, TN
11/10/09 N Charleston Coliseum, North Charleston, SC
11/11/09 BI-LO Center, Greenville SC
11/13/09 Wachovia Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA
11/14/09 Wachovia Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA
11/15/09 Wachovia Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA
11/18/09 Times Union Center, Albany, NY
11/21/09 Madison Square Garden, New York, NY
11/22/09 Madison Square Garden, New York, NY

plus wheel of fortune is taped @ burbank, which is at least the same state as indio. theres your conncection

Jonathan Fitch: your right on the money! Vanna White = Southern California

vanna white lives in southern california….

If you do a search for Limestone, ME on Wikipedia it also talks about Phish doing a festival there this year. In other words, don’t believe everything you read on Wikipedia.

Just to clear this up…

[snip]The trip to Red Rocks marks Phish’s first return to the legendary outdoor amphitheater since 1996 when the band was banned from the venue.

Concerns were raised at the time over the large throngs of fans that Phish drew to the relatively small amphitheater in the small town of Morrison. The band was unofficially banned for 10 years.

Red Rocks only holds 9,450 people.

But AEG Live executives, Phish’s management and Morrison and Denver officials were able to reach an agreement for the band to play four nights this coming summer.[/snip]

http://www.thedenverdailynews.com/article.php?aID=3653

there was a famous ufo crash in indio texas.  that is more likely why the little green man appears.  the mermaid is odd though.

i think i figured out the alien connection - the Empire Polo Grounds in Indio is right off of “Avenue 51” (area 51, similar, hmmm?!)

Nick, if the band was never banned from Red Rocks, then why did they not play there in ‘97, ‘98, ‘99, ‘00, ‘03, & ‘04? For a venue that Trey loves so much, it sounds like a ban to me.

Google Map “Red Imported Fire Ant Project” and zoom out.

Anthony, where in the world did you come up with the false rumor that they’re not allowed to play UIC? Very not true just like the Red Rocks ban that never was.

@David… that’s not really Page. See the updates in this post… http://jamtopia.com/blog/phish-on-twitter-page-promises-itll-all-be-worth-it/ ... for reference.

ALSO… A very interesting tweet from Page this morning:

Page_McConnell… “DATE - Pronunciation: dāt, Noun. Etym: Latin dactylus Date: 14th century The oblong edible fruit of a palm (Phoenix dactylifera)”

Phish isn’t allowed to play at the UIC pavillion anymore, smart money says Allstate Arena for the Chicago shows.

It also says on the same Wikipedia page that Phish will be playing a three day halloween festival.  Check it out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indio,_California#Annual_events

Phish on Conan / The Tonight Show on Oct. 28th….save that date too!

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